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Here it is! Please note how much Casey sounds like Weird Al when he says Santa Clause.
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Comments (13)
It's beautiful...superb, I love it!
Posted by Cox | November 15, 2007 11:06 PM
Posted on November 15, 2007 23:06
great job steph! i really enjoyed your podcast. it was really creative and interesting to listen to :)
i really agree with your secondary source.
your presentation was very well done.!
karly.
Posted by Karly Valenzuela | November 16, 2007 8:07 AM
Posted on November 16, 2007 08:07
The podcast was entertaining and informative. In class, we will need to talk about what an "art" or "techne" is and what it means to call oratory a techne or art. This should draw Casey's discussion of his article into relation with your article as well. Nice job.
Posted by Christopher Long | November 27, 2007 11:32 AM
Posted on November 27, 2007 11:32
This quite possibly has to be the smartest casual conversation i have EVER heard in my life.lol. But good job guys, fantastic.
Posted by Antione Taylor | November 27, 2007 4:47 PM
Posted on November 27, 2007 16:47
And hold on. Did you say GORGIAS JOB??!?!?!?!
Posted by Antione Taylor | November 27, 2007 4:48 PM
Posted on November 27, 2007 16:48
I dig the whole conversation thing. It's pretty entertaining.
Haha, that creamery example hits a little too close to home. Good thing it's cold now, not as tempting.
Barry Manilow?
I think your secondary source is right on.
Gorgias job!
Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 9:00 PM
Posted on November 27, 2007 21:00
I dig the whole conversation thing. It's very entertaining.
Barry Manilow? What?
I think your secondary source is right on.
Gorgias job!
Posted by Erin Rowley | November 27, 2007 9:03 PM
Posted on November 27, 2007 21:03
Love the conversation thing but anyway the source is right it is the art of rhetoric that is at fault not the teacher Gorgias only professes to teach the art he doesn't control what the student chooses to do with the knowledge. As well the I do believe that rhetoric is an art but it a art that can be misused however the teacher cannot be blamed for that misuse as I said to Casey he/she only provides the tool it is up to the student to decide the way it is used.
Posted by Chris | November 28, 2007 12:09 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 00:09
That was so creative and entertaining.
This kind of reminded me of how they made us write persuasive essays all the time in high school.
Posted by Nataliya Shtchyrba | November 28, 2007 12:20 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 00:20
Very creative podcast by making into a conversational piece, much like the play itself. I agree that rhetoric is a hard art to teach consistently, but I do believe that it is an art. I also agree that the art of persuasion is a dangerous thing to teach because it can be used to persuade others to believe what you are thinking whether it is true or not. Although it has few guidelines and is hard to teach I still believe that it can be considered to be an art.
Posted by Kendra Yearick | November 28, 2007 1:11 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 01:11
Hey Steph,
Awesome podcast! And interesting source…
Not exactly sure what the definition of art is, but if you think of rhetoric as the craft or skill of persuasion, I could definitely see it as an art. I would disagree that knowledge is not involved, because the knowledge of how best to persuade is obviously present. There would be knowledge of the tools and techniques of rhetoric (which I am unfortunately not privy to). But then I guess you would have to look at the definition of knowledge as well. And facts are involved as well, because sometimes their inclusion is the best way to persuade people. And even if the facts aren’t in your favor you still have to deal with them in order to persuade people well. I think the true root of the faultiness in rhetoric is that it is not truthful. It is not concerned with truth, but show. I can’t think of another craft that would stress manipulation over truth. Other crafts have no vested interest in such deceptions. But maybe I am just too tired to think of any. The goal of the craft of rhetoric is to get people to agree with you regardless of truth, I guess. In that way Gorgias’ rhetoric seems to me to be akin to propaganda. Oh and do you think since rhetoric can’t have culpability since it is inanimate? And that therefore, if it is inherently faulty, those who choose to use it thus become culpable? Sorry if this is incoherent… I should probably sleep now…:-)
Posted by Amanda | November 28, 2007 1:31 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 01:31
Oh, yeah, and Casey totally sounds like Weird Al when he says Santa Clause! That was pretty awesome...
Posted by Amanda Wise | November 28, 2007 1:33 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 01:33
what a creative way to make your presentation! that was cute :)
I do think rhetoric could be considered an art. I think any form of expression can be considered an art, and rhetoric is definitely one form. There are tricks involved to persuade people and I imagine one must practice in order to do so successfully. In my eyes, people express their opinions through rhetoric by persuading people to agree.
Posted by Katelyn Monahan | November 28, 2007 3:04 AM
Posted on November 28, 2007 03:04