My New Old Tuba photos page - A junkyard rescue

Here's a bunch of photos of a tuba my parents bought at a junkstore.  It is a King, made sometime before 1915 for the US Navy.  It's seen some abuse.  A bunch of the silver plate appears to have corroded off.  There were splits (3 -from frozen water while outside in junkyard) which have now been fixed, a new tuning slide made, numerous braces soldered and a new bottom bow guard put on.  Apparently the shop found a new one, I'm not sure what model it was designed for, but it fit!  From the below photos, I bet it was for the new King.   It was in the shop for about 9 months, going in just after the summer rush began.  I've been playing it since the end of April '02, thanks to Marty Erickson who brought it from the repair shop in Michigan to Penn State Univ.  Below are some new pictures.

The horn sounds great!! Definitely richer than the 1960 King I was playing.  Much better in the low end and the high end too!   As for mouthpieces, I liked a Bach18 mouthpiece first, then a RM-1 but still wanted a little more power and depth to the sound.  Went to WW & BW in South Bend and with the help of Roger Lewis and my brother's (bass trombonist) ears did a "blind" test of a bunch of mouthpieces.  I left with a PT-88.  Awesome power, but man does it suck the air out of you. 

12/05 Update.  I've now switched to the Giddings and Webster line of Mouthpieces (Stainless Steel and Titanium).  I got my first ever Tuba lessons from Ivan G. when he was a Grad. student here at PSU.  Great guy!  I was using his Bayamo model on the King, but have now switched to the Alan Baer CC model IN TITANIUM.  I tried several models back to back in stainless and titanium and clearly prefered the titanium in each case so I took the plunge.  This summer I took the horn in to Matt Walters at Dillon Music in NJ for a chem clean and some tweaking.  He also vented the 1st valve for me so I can easily pull the slide to tune the D below the staff.  I also had him realign the leadpipe for better ergonomics and also as an excuse to check out some poor soldering where the leadpipe enters the cluster.  He found an internal dent and some solder blobs.  He cleaned all that up and I was floored when I played it.  It was like playing a new horn.  Thank you Matt!

Bands I play in:

State College Area Municipal Band
The Bavarian Stompers
The Summit City Saints

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My King versus the new King 2341

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After playing it for a couple months I took it to Dillons Music in NJ for a few more minor repairs.  I took the above photos during the much too short stop at Dillons.   Looks like trends do go in cycles.

When I picked up the tuba, Matt Walters the tuba repair Guru at Dillons said it was one of the best BBb tubas he'd played.  He said a couple of his regulars gave the horn a toot and were very impressed.  I briefly played the new King and I have to say I liked my horn better.  Matt then brought out the new Miraphone 1291 BBb for me to try.  It was love at first blow.  Both Matt and my wife at the other end of the room thought at the same time, yup that's the horn for him (me).  Played one again at WW & BW, man the horn is awesome.  Hopefully I'll be able to afford one someday.
 

My King versus King 1241 ('60)


Latest Addition - a King Euphonium, also made for the Navy with a serial number only 125 higher than the tuba!!.  Needs a 4th valve and some repairs to the leadpipe.  I've made a bypass so it plays as a 3 valved horn - not bad!!  Bore is 0.590 in. and the bell diameter is 11 in.
 


close to scale from merged photos

 

Here's the before pictures of the old King
Rear view 1
Front view 1 - note dent by my dad's chin, on tuba, not my dad
Front view 2
Split 1 back of upper bow
Split 2 front view
Split 2 rear view
Split 3 on upper branch where hand goes
Tuning slide
Valve section
Valves - inside
Bell top view
Bell front view
Olds? sousa neck and bits #1
Olds? sousa neck and bits #2